Are blue-collar jobs more secure than desk jobs? Recently on The Pop-Up!, Port of Seattle Commission President Ryan Calkins called for the examination of how technology replaces human workers and causes economic disruptions, referencing Governor Bob Ferguson’s new economic activation council.

Calkins suggested shifting the focus away from traditional desk jobs to rethink the value of blue-collar careers, highlighting secure opportunities at the Port in areas like welding and aviation mechanics.

Watch Ryan’s full interview alongside Boon Boona Coffee CEO and founder Efrem Fesaha at tinyurl.com/EfremRyan

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