Last night on The Pop-Up!, host The Big O sat down with nationally recognized relationships expert Debrena Jackson Gandy, known as "The Relationships (R)Evolutionary," who leads a "State of the Union" discussion on the current landscape of Black love, the necessity of a new relationship paradigm, and how couples can move toward deeper fulfillment.

The Big O also touched base with designer and stylist Nate Alexander, the creative force behind the brand Mainly Razedebar. Alexander discusses his journey from Atlanta back to his roots in Tacoma, Washington, detailing how he incorporates Black culture into his handmade garment creations and reflecting on the evolving creative scenes across both cities.